Yes, it’s a kids film, but the best animated movies have aspects aimed at the adults who’ll be watching with them which largely go over the kiddies’ heads. So you may not be reading too much into it at all.
Really looking forward to seeing it, I love me a good Disney movie (for the belly laughs and the happy endings). 🙂
Surely the frying pan is a staple classic weapon, or is that more for Warner cartoons?
though having said that Martin Blank in Grosse Point Blank also used a frying pan, just a thought.
I saw it with my 12-year old daughter. She loved it. I thought it was okay to sit through. Unlike Alpha and Omega which had me itching to leave. As for as the comic-
SPOILER!!-
By the end she knows. And the death was really on the hands of the chameleon.
Well, The Emperor’s New Groove and Aladdin come to mind…
The governor in Pocahontas doesn’t get offed, though maybe after the trial. The villain trio in Robin Hood just get sentenced to hard labor. I don’t think Shere Khan in the Jungle Book dies, and I never saw Hercules but I imagine Hades doesn’t get killed either…
And some of them don’t have villains par say. Like the Sword in the Stone. Antagonists, but not villains.
Assuming by vanquished you mean slain! If you just mean defeated then you’re kind of stuck with a few odd ones without villains or such. Like the Three Caballeros =)
I want to see this but will wait for DVD. $20 for tickets just isn’t worth it for most movies.
Mulan was a movie with a strong heroine who saved a man (twice) rather than waiting for a man to rescue her. i forget what year itw as made but it is a Disney movie.
I saw Tangled this weekend and thought it was a pretty decent movie. The songs really weren’t very memorable which is a shame, since this is Disney’s last ‘princess movie’ for the forseeable future. It makes you wonder what they’re going to produce in the future? More live action films or more animated stuff marketed to a general audience?
The site seems to have eaten my post. If it turns up later, I apologize, especially considering the sentiment.
Disney movies in which the villain doesn’t die:
(Are these spoilers? The movies are pretty old.)
Alice in Wonderland
Aladdin
The Fox and the Hound (the hunter as the villain, not the bear)
Pinocchio (does the whale die? I know Strombili doesn’t)
Cinderella
Robin Hood
101 Dalmatians
The Jungle Book
The Emperor’s New Groove (admittedly, a sillier flick)
I think that’s all of them…. In any case, it’s more than one I love you, Tom, but the spoiler in the comic made me wish I had forgotten to check the site this week.
I guess the best I can offer are my apologies. I didn’t really consider the ending of Tangled to be spoiler territory. Regardless of how the villain is dispatched, I’ve yet to watch a Disney film yet that didn’t end happily ever after. I figured that much was assumed by the audience.
Alice — Who is the villain?
Robin — Prison.
Fox — Assumed reformation.
Pinocchio — The purpose is escape, not domination.
Cinderella — Same as Pinocchio. Escape, not domination.
Aladdin — As good as dead: “ten thousand years in the Cave of Wonders…”
101 Dalmations — Assumed prison. See: Pinocchio
Jungle Book — Snake and tiger get pwned royally.
Emperor — Loss of power.
While Disney doesn’t always kill their villains (in fact, they rarely do), they usually dispatch them in some poetic fashion.
Well, I saw Rapunzel last night, but before that I figured since the Rapunzel story involves magic, they could have disposed of the mother some magical way, like trapping in a mirror or something.
Can you call it a spoiler if she doesn’t actually commit matricide? a) She’s the only one it the room who doesn’t actively contribute to the death in question, and b) it’s not matricide – Rapunzel’s mother is alive and well when the credits roll. (actually she’s a rarity in that regard: a Disney character with two living parents)
I honestly don’t see the appeal of Tangled. It looks like a horrible movie, only a grade or two above Alpha and Omega (did that actually sell any tickets?). The trailers really do a poor job selling it. That, and I want more 2D animations!
I loved Princess and the Frog, and while it wasn’t a box office smash, it didn’t exactly fail either (broke even on domestic). Perhaps they shouldn’t have spent so much money on it. $105M vs 1992’s Aladdin which only cost $20M. I think even with inflation, 5 times the budget is quite a jump.
Someone explain to me the appeal of Tangled. To me, it looks like Disney’s version of Shrek (and that isn’t a good thing).
I saw Alpha and Omega as well and you can’t even compare the two movies.
Tangled has amazing visuals, action scenes and hilarious belly laugh moments. The story is as captivating (or even more, I’d say) as Princess and the Frog and the characters are so easy to fall in love with. (Especially the sidekicks.)
Yes, the trailers and marketing weren’t the best. They advertised the movie heavily on the comedy aspects while it equally has great drama and action which they should have shown more of.
Nowhere in the film did I get a feeling of Shrek. It was a true Disney movie. Besides Shrek made fun of Disney. Why would Disney make fun of Shrek?
Shrek traffics in pop-culture references that probably goes directly over the heads of a younger audience and possesses a snarky and sour attitude that seems mostly in contempt of the genre.
Tangled is bright, face-paced adventure that’s suitable for ALL members of the family. It doesn’t pander. It does everything Disney does exceptionally well and would be worth your time to watch.
I’m kind of an orthodox fairy tale fan, so Disney is not one of my favorite companies. I know C.S. Lewis hated Disney for their bastardization of dwarfs through Snow White. I like my fairy tales to hold on to tradition. I’m not opposed updated or new fairy tales, but this modernization has ruined not only what many of these tales were made for, but also the elements making up these tales. A little bit of traditionalism wouldn’t hurt a Disney film, but then again, a little bit of traditionalism wouldn’t bring in nearly as much money.
But at the same time, what we consider “traditional” failry tales are really just stories (anecdotes, et al.) collected and written down a long time ago by someone(s). The stories “written” by the Brothers Grimm, for example, are no more original than the majority of Shakespeare’s non-historical plays (which are mostly derivitives of earlier literate works).
So, while I share your disgust/despair at the Disneyfication of many classic tales, we would be hard pressed to find any true/real version of their source stories, if any even exist. And what makes one an orthodoxed tale really is what the people/masses decide/agree is the orthodoxed tale (they being the authority in these matters).
Saw Tangled. It was so good! Maximus is like Altivo from Road to El Dorado on steroids. Kind of sad that the best song in the movie was the throwaway silly song from the bar scene.
Mandy Moore was really good! I knew she was a good actress, and a good singer, but I’d never heard her do any voice work that I know of. Had she done any before?
Is Rapunzel always a painter? I know she was in the Barbie version. I’m actually not familiar with the Rapunzel story other than the Into the Woods version.
To reinforce your point about why they went with Tangled instead of Rapunzel for the name…
I was talking to a friend of mine and asked if he liked animated movies. He said yeah, though he’s not a huge fan of the genre but he will watch one if it looks interesting. So I asked him if he saw The Princess and the Frog. His response? “Well, I don’t have a daughter or a girlfriend, so no.” Sigh.
And speaking of animated films, you really should see Legend of the Guardian: Owls of Ga’Hoole while it’s in theaters. Remarkable aside from the tragic decision to include an indie pop band in the soundtrack when the rest of it was original, orchestral scores.
Yes, it’s a kids film, but the best animated movies have aspects aimed at the adults who’ll be watching with them which largely go over the kiddies’ heads. So you may not be reading too much into it at all.
Really looking forward to seeing it, I love me a good Disney movie (for the belly laughs and the happy endings). 🙂
Surely the frying pan is a staple classic weapon, or is that more for Warner cartoons?
though having said that Martin Blank in Grosse Point Blank also used a frying pan, just a thought.
Tian
I saw it with my 12-year old daughter. She loved it. I thought it was okay to sit through. Unlike Alpha and Omega which had me itching to leave. As for as the comic-
SPOILER!!-
By the end she knows. And the death was really on the hands of the chameleon.
Wellllllll… spoiler-y, yeah. But c’mon. Name one Disney movie where the villain ISN’T vanquished!
Well, The Emperor’s New Groove and Aladdin come to mind…
The governor in Pocahontas doesn’t get offed, though maybe after the trial. The villain trio in Robin Hood just get sentenced to hard labor. I don’t think Shere Khan in the Jungle Book dies, and I never saw Hercules but I imagine Hades doesn’t get killed either…
And some of them don’t have villains par say. Like the Sword in the Stone. Antagonists, but not villains.
Assuming by vanquished you mean slain! If you just mean defeated then you’re kind of stuck with a few odd ones without villains or such. Like the Three Caballeros =)
I want to see this but will wait for DVD. $20 for tickets just isn’t worth it for most movies.
Mulan was a movie with a strong heroine who saved a man (twice) rather than waiting for a man to rescue her. i forget what year itw as made but it is a Disney movie.
Good call!
Funny how Mulan never seems to get mentioned by Disney critics.
Mulan’s definitely one of my all-time favorite Disney movies.
I saw Tangled this weekend and thought it was a pretty decent movie. The songs really weren’t very memorable which is a shame, since this is Disney’s last ‘princess movie’ for the forseeable future. It makes you wonder what they’re going to produce in the future? More live action films or more animated stuff marketed to a general audience?
The site seems to have eaten my post. If it turns up later, I apologize, especially considering the sentiment.
Disney movies in which the villain doesn’t die:
(Are these spoilers? The movies are pretty old.)
Alice in Wonderland
Aladdin
The Fox and the Hound (the hunter as the villain, not the bear)
Pinocchio (does the whale die? I know Strombili doesn’t)
Cinderella
Robin Hood
101 Dalmatians
The Jungle Book
The Emperor’s New Groove (admittedly, a sillier flick)
I think that’s all of them…. In any case, it’s more than one I love you, Tom, but the spoiler in the comic made me wish I had forgotten to check the site this week.
I guess the best I can offer are my apologies. I didn’t really consider the ending of Tangled to be spoiler territory. Regardless of how the villain is dispatched, I’ve yet to watch a Disney film yet that didn’t end happily ever after. I figured that much was assumed by the audience.
I believe this is in order…
Alice — Who is the villain?
Robin — Prison.
Fox — Assumed reformation.
Pinocchio — The purpose is escape, not domination.
Cinderella — Same as Pinocchio. Escape, not domination.
Aladdin — As good as dead: “ten thousand years in the Cave of Wonders…”
101 Dalmations — Assumed prison. See: Pinocchio
Jungle Book — Snake and tiger get pwned royally.
Emperor — Loss of power.
While Disney doesn’t always kill their villains (in fact, they rarely do), they usually dispatch them in some poetic fashion.
Well, I saw Rapunzel last night, but before that I figured since the Rapunzel story involves magic, they could have disposed of the mother some magical way, like trapping in a mirror or something.
Can you call it a spoiler if she doesn’t actually commit matricide? a) She’s the only one it the room who doesn’t actively contribute to the death in question, and b) it’s not matricide – Rapunzel’s mother is alive and well when the credits roll. (actually she’s a rarity in that regard: a Disney character with two living parents)
That’s why I used the qualifier “essentially matricide” in the comic. ;D
I honestly don’t see the appeal of Tangled. It looks like a horrible movie, only a grade or two above Alpha and Omega (did that actually sell any tickets?). The trailers really do a poor job selling it. That, and I want more 2D animations!
I loved Princess and the Frog, and while it wasn’t a box office smash, it didn’t exactly fail either (broke even on domestic). Perhaps they shouldn’t have spent so much money on it. $105M vs 1992’s Aladdin which only cost $20M. I think even with inflation, 5 times the budget is quite a jump.
Someone explain to me the appeal of Tangled. To me, it looks like Disney’s version of Shrek (and that isn’t a good thing).
I saw Alpha and Omega as well and you can’t even compare the two movies.
Tangled has amazing visuals, action scenes and hilarious belly laugh moments. The story is as captivating (or even more, I’d say) as Princess and the Frog and the characters are so easy to fall in love with. (Especially the sidekicks.)
Yes, the trailers and marketing weren’t the best. They advertised the movie heavily on the comedy aspects while it equally has great drama and action which they should have shown more of.
Nowhere in the film did I get a feeling of Shrek. It was a true Disney movie. Besides Shrek made fun of Disney. Why would Disney make fun of Shrek?
Tangled is about a million miles away from Shrek.
Shrek traffics in pop-culture references that probably goes directly over the heads of a younger audience and possesses a snarky and sour attitude that seems mostly in contempt of the genre.
Tangled is bright, face-paced adventure that’s suitable for ALL members of the family. It doesn’t pander. It does everything Disney does exceptionally well and would be worth your time to watch.
The trailers for Tangled really misrepresent the tone of the movie.
I’m kind of an orthodox fairy tale fan, so Disney is not one of my favorite companies. I know C.S. Lewis hated Disney for their bastardization of dwarfs through Snow White. I like my fairy tales to hold on to tradition. I’m not opposed updated or new fairy tales, but this modernization has ruined not only what many of these tales were made for, but also the elements making up these tales. A little bit of traditionalism wouldn’t hurt a Disney film, but then again, a little bit of traditionalism wouldn’t bring in nearly as much money.
Or you could recognize it as a separate entity from the tales at this point?
But at the same time, what we consider “traditional” failry tales are really just stories (anecdotes, et al.) collected and written down a long time ago by someone(s). The stories “written” by the Brothers Grimm, for example, are no more original than the majority of Shakespeare’s non-historical plays (which are mostly derivitives of earlier literate works).
So, while I share your disgust/despair at the Disneyfication of many classic tales, we would be hard pressed to find any true/real version of their source stories, if any even exist. And what makes one an orthodoxed tale really is what the people/masses decide/agree is the orthodoxed tale (they being the authority in these matters).
Saw Tangled. It was so good! Maximus is like Altivo from Road to El Dorado on steroids. Kind of sad that the best song in the movie was the throwaway silly song from the bar scene.
Mandy Moore was really good! I knew she was a good actress, and a good singer, but I’d never heard her do any voice work that I know of. Had she done any before?
Is Rapunzel always a painter? I know she was in the Barbie version. I’m actually not familiar with the Rapunzel story other than the Into the Woods version.
To reinforce your point about why they went with Tangled instead of Rapunzel for the name…
I was talking to a friend of mine and asked if he liked animated movies. He said yeah, though he’s not a huge fan of the genre but he will watch one if it looks interesting. So I asked him if he saw The Princess and the Frog. His response? “Well, I don’t have a daughter or a girlfriend, so no.” Sigh.
And speaking of animated films, you really should see Legend of the Guardian: Owls of Ga’Hoole while it’s in theaters. Remarkable aside from the tragic decision to include an indie pop band in the soundtrack when the rest of it was original, orchestral scores.
Whenever I tell people I saw Tangled they don’t know which movie I mean. “You know,”I explain. “Rapunzel.” “Oh, oh, right,” they say. “That.”