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		<title>By: Ittousagi</title>
		<link>http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/11/29/we-pan-do-it/#comment-6385</link>
		<dc:creator>Ittousagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But at the same time, what we consider &quot;traditional&quot; failry tales are really just stories (anecdotes, et al.) collected and written down a long time ago by someone(s). The stories &quot;written&quot; by the Brothers Grimm, for example, are no more original than the majority of Shakespeare&#039;s non-historical plays (which are mostly derivitives of earlier literate works). 
So, while I share your disgust/despair at the Disneyfication of many classic tales, we would be hard pressed to find any true/real version of their source stories, if any even exist. And what makes one an orthodoxed tale really is what the people/masses decide/agree is the orthodoxed tale (they being the authority in these matters).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But at the same time, what we consider &#8220;traditional&#8221; failry tales are really just stories (anecdotes, et al.) collected and written down a long time ago by someone(s). The stories &#8220;written&#8221; by the Brothers Grimm, for example, are no more original than the majority of Shakespeare&#8217;s non-historical plays (which are mostly derivitives of earlier literate works).<br />
So, while I share your disgust/despair at the Disneyfication of many classic tales, we would be hard pressed to find any true/real version of their source stories, if any even exist. And what makes one an orthodoxed tale really is what the people/masses decide/agree is the orthodoxed tale (they being the authority in these matters).</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whenever I tell people I saw Tangled they don&#039;t know which movie I mean.  &quot;You know,&quot;I explain.  &quot;Rapunzel.&quot;  &quot;Oh, oh, right,&quot; they say.  &quot;That.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I tell people I saw Tangled they don&#8217;t know which movie I mean.  &#8220;You know,&#8221;I explain.  &#8220;Rapunzel.&#8221;  &#8220;Oh, oh, right,&#8221; they say.  &#8220;That.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: taekwondogirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>taekwondogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To reinforce your point about why they went with Tangled instead of Rapunzel for the name...
I was talking to a friend of mine and asked if he liked animated movies. He said yeah, though he&#039;s not a huge fan of the genre but he will watch one if it looks interesting. So I asked him if he saw The Princess and the Frog. His response? &quot;Well, I don&#039;t have a daughter or a girlfriend, so no.&quot; Sigh.

And speaking of animated films, you really should see Legend of the Guardian: Owls of Ga&#039;Hoole while it&#039;s in theaters. Remarkable aside from the tragic decision to include an indie pop band in the soundtrack when the rest of it was original, orchestral scores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reinforce your point about why they went with Tangled instead of Rapunzel for the name&#8230;<br />
I was talking to a friend of mine and asked if he liked animated movies. He said yeah, though he&#8217;s not a huge fan of the genre but he will watch one if it looks interesting. So I asked him if he saw The Princess and the Frog. His response? &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t have a daughter or a girlfriend, so no.&#8221; Sigh.</p>
<p>And speaking of animated films, you really should see Legend of the Guardian: Owls of Ga&#8217;Hoole while it&#8217;s in theaters. Remarkable aside from the tragic decision to include an indie pop band in the soundtrack when the rest of it was original, orchestral scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saw Tangled.  It was so good!  Maximus is like Altivo from Road to El Dorado on steroids.  Kind of sad that the best song in the movie was the throwaway silly song from the bar scene.

Mandy Moore was really good!  I knew she was a good actress, and a good singer, but I&#039;d never heard her do any voice work that I  know of.  Had she done any before?

Is Rapunzel always a painter?  I know she was in the Barbie version.  I&#039;m actually not familiar with the Rapunzel story other than the Into the Woods version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw Tangled.  It was so good!  Maximus is like Altivo from Road to El Dorado on steroids.  Kind of sad that the best song in the movie was the throwaway silly song from the bar scene.</p>
<p>Mandy Moore was really good!  I knew she was a good actress, and a good singer, but I&#8217;d never heard her do any voice work that I  know of.  Had she done any before?</p>
<p>Is Rapunzel always a painter?  I know she was in the Barbie version.  I&#8217;m actually not familiar with the Rapunzel story other than the Into the Woods version.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I saw Rapunzel last night, but before that I figured since the Rapunzel story involves magic, they could have disposed of the mother some magical way, like trapping in a mirror or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I saw Rapunzel last night, but before that I figured since the Rapunzel story involves magic, they could have disposed of the mother some magical way, like trapping in a mirror or something.</p>
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		<title>By: taekwondogirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>taekwondogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or you could recognize it as a separate entity from the tales at this point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could recognize it as a separate entity from the tales at this point?</p>
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		<title>By: taekwondogirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>taekwondogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mulan&#039;s definitely one of my all-time favorite Disney movies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulan&#8217;s definitely one of my all-time favorite Disney movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Legacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, The Emperor&#039;s New Groove and Aladdin come to mind...

The governor in Pocahontas doesn&#039;t get offed, though maybe after the trial.  The villain trio in Robin Hood just get sentenced to hard labor. I don&#039;t think Shere Khan in the Jungle Book dies, and I never saw Hercules but I imagine Hades doesn&#039;t get killed either...

And some of them don&#039;t have villains par say.  Like the Sword in the Stone.  Antagonists, but not villains.

Assuming by vanquished you mean slain!  If you just mean defeated then you&#039;re kind of stuck with a few odd ones without villains or such. Like the Three Caballeros =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, The Emperor&#8217;s New Groove and Aladdin come to mind&#8230;</p>
<p>The governor in Pocahontas doesn&#8217;t get offed, though maybe after the trial.  The villain trio in Robin Hood just get sentenced to hard labor. I don&#8217;t think Shere Khan in the Jungle Book dies, and I never saw Hercules but I imagine Hades doesn&#8217;t get killed either&#8230;</p>
<p>And some of them don&#8217;t have villains par say.  Like the Sword in the Stone.  Antagonists, but not villains.</p>
<p>Assuming by vanquished you mean slain!  If you just mean defeated then you&#8217;re kind of stuck with a few odd ones without villains or such. Like the Three Caballeros =)</p>
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		<title>By: Avi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trailers for Tangled really misrepresent the tone of the movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trailers for Tangled really misrepresent the tone of the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m kind of an orthodox fairy tale fan, so Disney is not one of my favorite companies.  I know C.S. Lewis hated Disney for their bastardization of dwarfs through Snow White.  I like my fairy tales to hold on to tradition.  I&#039;m not opposed updated or new fairy tales, but this modernization has ruined not only what many of these tales were made for, but also the elements making up these tales.  A little bit of traditionalism wouldn&#039;t hurt a Disney film, but then again, a little bit of traditionalism wouldn&#039;t bring in nearly as much money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of an orthodox fairy tale fan, so Disney is not one of my favorite companies.  I know C.S. Lewis hated Disney for their bastardization of dwarfs through Snow White.  I like my fairy tales to hold on to tradition.  I&#8217;m not opposed updated or new fairy tales, but this modernization has ruined not only what many of these tales were made for, but also the elements making up these tales.  A little bit of traditionalism wouldn&#8217;t hurt a Disney film, but then again, a little bit of traditionalism wouldn&#8217;t bring in nearly as much money.</p>
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