Comments on: IMAGINATION ON AN INFINITE LOOP http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/ Comics about movies Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:26:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MzGambit http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4396 MzGambit Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:29:34 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4396 Saw it. Dont' regret seeing it... however i'm not exactly moved to tell others to check it out. i felt like i was watching the cliffnotes version of Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass. There really wasn't much detail of a story line. the whole thing seems just GENERAL. Alice is easily distracted... Alice falls down hole... Alice eats and drinks things without thinking twice... Alice doesn't understand where she is or the characters she's talking to... Alice offends everyone... Alice meets queen... Alice learns lesson... Alice reappears in old world. yeah we got that. how about some filler details? Rather than Wizard of Oz-ing it through the movie, how about really getting to the point? I feel this movie would've been ridiculously awesome if directed by a collaboration between Tim Burtons Vision and Atmosphere but through Quentin Taratino's storytelling. THAT is true wonderland. THAT is an explination. and THAT covers all angles. :( it's moments like this that a RESET button in time would be wonderfully effective. Also. Mad Hatter???? I LOVE Johnny Depp however.... eeeeeeeh... the Mad Hatter was merely Sweeney Todd (mood swings, crazy hair), Willy Wonka (makeup, sillyness, and sometimes voice), and Capt. Jack Sparrow (obsession with his hat, however being the mad Hatter i can't really say that's blameable in this instance, how he walked, how he ran, and his costume) blended into one. He needs to work on creating a different persona for each of his characters. It is becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between them as of lately. Saw it.
Dont’ regret seeing it… however i’m not exactly moved to tell others to check it out. i felt like i was watching the cliffnotes version of Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass. There really wasn’t much detail of a story line. the whole thing seems just GENERAL. Alice is easily distracted… Alice falls down hole… Alice eats and drinks things without thinking twice… Alice doesn’t understand where she is or the characters she’s talking to… Alice offends everyone… Alice meets queen… Alice learns lesson… Alice reappears in old world. yeah we got that. how about some filler details? Rather than Wizard of Oz-ing it through the movie, how about really getting to the point? I feel this movie would’ve been ridiculously awesome if directed by a collaboration between Tim Burtons Vision and Atmosphere but through Quentin Taratino’s storytelling. THAT is true wonderland. THAT is an explination. and THAT covers all angles. :( it’s moments like this that a RESET button in time would be wonderfully effective.

Also. Mad Hatter???? I LOVE Johnny Depp however…. eeeeeeeh… the Mad Hatter was merely Sweeney Todd (mood swings, crazy hair), Willy Wonka (makeup, sillyness, and sometimes voice), and Capt. Jack Sparrow (obsession with his hat, however being the mad Hatter i can’t really say that’s blameable in this instance, how he walked, how he ran, and his costume) blended into one. He needs to work on creating a different persona for each of his characters. It is becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between them as of lately.

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]]> By: AshiKitten http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4363 AshiKitten Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:21:17 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4363 I probably will see this. I have to admit, Johnny Depp does look a little creepy. I thought he was kinda scary in "The Chocolate Factory" but yeah...lol best line from "Chocolate Factory" "You smell like soap and old people...I like it! :D" I probably will see this. I have to admit, Johnny Depp does look a little creepy. I thought he was kinda scary in “The Chocolate Factory” but yeah…lol best line from “Chocolate Factory”

“You smell like soap and old people…I like it! :D ”

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]]> By: Kaye http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4362 Kaye Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:44:16 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4362 Your rant is so perfectly what I've thought of Burton and Depp for the last year or two, and I've tried so hard to articulate it so as to not get in fights with people but it never comes out right. That though, that was beautiful. Your rant is so perfectly what I’ve thought of Burton and Depp for the last year or two, and I’ve tried so hard to articulate it so as to not get in fights with people but it never comes out right. That though, that was beautiful.

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]]> By: Chris http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4360 Chris Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:56:27 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4360 I'm excited to see this as I'm a Burton and Depp fan, but I do agree. Depp seems to play the same role in all of Burton's movies and it is getting hard to tell them apart at this point. The only possible saving grace is that Depp isn't likely to have a huge role in this film. At least in the book and the Disney movie the Hatter is a significant supporting character but by no means does the Hatter make the story. I’m excited to see this as I’m a Burton and Depp fan, but I do agree. Depp seems to play the same role in all of Burton’s movies and it is getting hard to tell them apart at this point. The only possible saving grace is that Depp isn’t likely to have a huge role in this film. At least in the book and the Disney movie the Hatter is a significant supporting character but by no means does the Hatter make the story.

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]]> By: Zach S http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4358 Zach S Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:29:30 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4358 While I am looking forward to the movie and enjoy Burton/Depp films it seems that there are too many similarities. It makes sense that Burton likes to work with Depp, because Depp seems to understand the vision that Burton has while filming. What I think could work out well if Burton would use Depp again, cast him in a different role, Depp has shown that he can handle a variety of roles from his other projects. While I am looking forward to the movie and enjoy Burton/Depp films it seems that there are too many similarities. It makes sense that Burton likes to work with Depp, because Depp seems to understand the vision that Burton has while filming. What I think could work out well if Burton would use Depp again, cast him in a different role, Depp has shown that he can handle a variety of roles from his other projects.

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]]> By: Tonia http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4355 Tonia Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:22:09 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4355 Yes I agree with you about his replaying the same type of themes (personally Big Fish was my one of favorite Burton movies but I seem to remember it also got a bit of critical drubbing from some) - and for somewhat disturbing versions of "Alice" - the animated version by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_%281988_film%29" rel="nofollow">Jan Svankmajer is very weird</a> Yes I agree with you about his replaying the same type of themes (personally Big Fish was my one of favorite Burton movies but I seem to remember it also got a bit of critical drubbing from some) – and for somewhat disturbing versions of “Alice” – the animated version by Jan Svankmajer is very weird

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]]> By: R.J. Oltrick http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4353 R.J. Oltrick Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:02:03 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4353 I agree, while disagreeing in a way. I am probably going to see Alice in Wonderland, because Burton has yet to make me dislike one of his movies. I haven't seen all of them, however, so who knows. However I am deeply disaapointed in all the Mad Hatter hype. As a previous poster said, it's ALICE'S movie. It's her tale. Having Depp in the previews so predominately makes me feel like Burton isn't even trying to do something different, that he is now at the point where he is going 'LOOK! Depp with a pasty white face! You have loved these movies before, so watch it again!' To be honest, it's like he is pimping his relationship with Johnny Depp. It makes me feel uncomfortable. Of course, how much say does the director have in adds? That could be totally the people trying to sell the movie. So we will see, I am holding out hope. Though I wish Burton did another tale like big fish again... which was originally a book, so that isn't even a original tale, fyi. <Library worker. You would be surprised on how many movies were books. I agree, while disagreeing in a way.

I am probably going to see Alice in Wonderland, because Burton has yet to make me dislike one of his movies. I haven’t seen all of them, however, so who knows. However I am deeply disaapointed in all the Mad Hatter hype. As a previous poster said, it’s ALICE’S movie. It’s her tale. Having Depp in the previews so predominately makes me feel like Burton isn’t even trying to do something different, that he is now at the point where he is going ‘LOOK! Depp with a pasty white face! You have loved these movies before, so watch it again!’

To be honest, it’s like he is pimping his relationship with Johnny Depp. It makes me feel uncomfortable.

Of course, how much say does the director have in adds? That could be totally the people trying to sell the movie. So we will see, I am holding out hope.

Though I wish Burton did another tale like big fish again… which was originally a book, so that isn’t even a original tale, fyi. <Library worker. You would be surprised on how many movies were books.

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]]> By: Funderbunk http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4352 Funderbunk Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:58:32 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4352 Most of what I think has been said (I agree with those who think it looks same old same old), but I'd like to say that I disagree with this statement: "There is no other living director that could possibly do Alice in Wonderland justice like Burton could." I would like to raise a finger and point out Guillermo del Toro. Most of what I think has been said (I agree with those who think it looks same old same old), but I’d like to say that I disagree with this statement: “There is no other living director that could possibly do Alice in Wonderland justice like Burton could.”

I would like to raise a finger and point out Guillermo del Toro.

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]]> By: woodstock http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4350 woodstock Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:35:48 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4350 i watched Alice in Wonderland last night. I will say the best parts of the movie are the parts that don't involve Johnny Depp. That is a biased opinion because like anyone else, I'm tired of Johnny Depp acting like a creep for Tim Burton. I'm sure the stoners will love the visuals, but there is almost no charming wordplay that you'd expect. Also the 3D effects are purely gimmicks. Very rarely does it actually enhance the mood of the film. Tim Burton's understanding of 3D is just to throw things in your face i watched Alice in Wonderland last night. I will say the best parts of the movie are the parts that don’t involve Johnny Depp. That is a biased opinion because like anyone else, I’m tired of Johnny Depp acting like a creep for Tim Burton. I’m sure the stoners will love the visuals, but there is almost no charming wordplay that you’d expect. Also the 3D effects are purely gimmicks. Very rarely does it actually enhance the mood of the film. Tim Burton’s understanding of 3D is just to throw things in your face

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]]> By: Tom http://www.theaterhopper.com/2010/03/01/imagination-on-an-infinite-loop/#comment-4348 Tom Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:43:30 +0000 http://www.theaterhopper.com/?p=5488#comment-4348 @RLove, I think you make some very well-reasoned points. Certainly the comic (and to an extent, the blog) are making a generalization by only identifying Depp, pale makeup and oddball characters at the only connective tissue. Certainly if you dig deeper, there are disparities between the films. Most clearly between Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood and Burton's later cannon. But I guess that's my problem with Burton's later cannon. While earlier films like Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Batman, Ed Wood and Mars Attacks were wildly different (with a proper dosage of Burton charm and whimsy), his later films like Sleepy Hollow, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd look alarmingly the same to me. The same gothic tone. The same warped images. The same cast. The same music. It feels <strong>predictable</strong> and I think for someone of Burton's creative capacity, "predictable" is the last thing you'd want to be. I love Tim Burton films. I think Burton is a unique voice in Hollywood and I don't mean to disparage his efforts. Despite the samey-same feeling I get from some of his later films, I'm very much a fan of Sweeney Todd and Sleepy Hollow. But, in my view, he's not living up to his potential. I think he's gotten comfortable working in a certain style with certain people that he trusts. That's understandable. But I think he could re-energize himself by making a few simple changes that really wouldn't be that painful in the long run. @RLove,

I think you make some very well-reasoned points. Certainly the comic (and to an extent, the blog) are making a generalization by only identifying Depp, pale makeup and oddball characters at the only connective tissue. Certainly if you dig deeper, there are disparities between the films. Most clearly between Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood and Burton’s later cannon.

But I guess that’s my problem with Burton’s later cannon. While earlier films like Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Batman, Ed Wood and Mars Attacks were wildly different (with a proper dosage of Burton charm and whimsy), his later films like Sleepy Hollow, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd look alarmingly the same to me. The same gothic tone. The same warped images. The same cast. The same music. It feels predictable and I think for someone of Burton’s creative capacity, “predictable” is the last thing you’d want to be.

I love Tim Burton films. I think Burton is a unique voice in Hollywood and I don’t mean to disparage his efforts. Despite the samey-same feeling I get from some of his later films, I’m very much a fan of Sweeney Todd and Sleepy Hollow.

But, in my view, he’s not living up to his potential. I think he’s gotten comfortable working in a certain style with certain people that he trusts. That’s understandable. But I think he could re-energize himself by making a few simple changes that really wouldn’t be that painful in the long run.

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